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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.06.27 00:18:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Minmatar combat rifle and Caldari rail rifle
Gallente ion pistol and Caldari rail pistol
Gallente Minmatar and Amarr melee weapons
Gallente and Amarr heavy weapons
Minmatar Gallente and Caldari heavy dropsuits
Caldari and Amarr light dropsuits
Minmatar and Amarr LAVs
Minmatar and Amarr tanks
Minmatar and Amarr drophips
When all these are here, we should all have one last optional respec. Why? Without all the racial variants, we could not make informed choices of what we wanted from our characters since we didn't have the full set of basic options. It could be argued that we could have just never specialized and just waited, but its unreasonable to expect players to just militia gear a year or more into release, and thus sacrifice the ability to play competitively.
We don't need respecs like MTACs, fighters, and other non-basic stuff gets added
I kind of have to agree with that. These suits and weapon and vehicle variants NEEDED TO BE OUT ON RELEASE.....but wasn't.... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2013.06.27 01:03:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Caldari MTACs beeing released first, others following a few months later => three quarters of users demand a respec because they actually wanted to use a racial equivalent and moan about beeing forced to effectively retrain their current role.
Not that i support this kind of reasoning but it's already clear that this will happen whenever new content is not released with racial symmetry. I think we should account for this if we really have to go down the respec route. My first reply is pretty much identical to your proposal with the only difference beeing that it's designed to become a general rule instead of beeing limited to some point in time. I would be ok if there were more respecs for stuff like that, but I personally don't think its needed. To be quite honest i don't think any of this is needed as i'm on the "preserve SP, spec when released, done" side of the debate. What i'm arguing is that if we were to allow respecs for "basic" things like heavies, ARs and others why not for "non-basic" stuff like MTACs? What's the difference between those two anyway, other than that one exists now but only partially and the other beeing released later but still only partially? MTACs and jets will be the primary role for many players just as HAVs wich you included into your list. They will face the same issues that current heavy, LAV, HAV, and DS users face now and for this reason i see no justification for treating them differently just because the one are released and the others aren't. My proposal boils down to "Grace period for one limited respec from one racial equivalent to another whenever a new racial equivalent gets released". That locks FOTM abuse right out of the door and gives a clear rules for wether an addition warrants a respec and why.
This makes sense but what the Dust Devs have done to a player like me who is a perfectionist is that they aren't allowing me to spec in at all.
I cannot select to skill into any drop suits, or weapons knowing that new weapons are to come out, or be nerfed or buffed, etc.
I have a 2.5 million SP, and a 7.7 Million SP toon but cannot do anything with them until 1.2, even if 1.2 drops and no vehicles, or racial dropsuits come out I have then to spec into something I seriously don't want to with no prospective respect in the future.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
266
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Posted - 2013.06.27 04:15:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:True Adamance wrote:
I have a 2.5 million SP, and a 7.7 Million SP toon but cannot do anything with them until 1.2, even if 1.2 drops and no vehicles, or racial dropsuits come out I have then to spec into something I seriously don't want to with no prospective respect in the future.
relax. Make some mistakes.
Well atm I have to specc into Amarr Assault.....cause well I have to crush Minmatar skulls in something! |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.06.27 07:51:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:True Adamance wrote:
I have a 2.5 million SP, and a 7.7 Million SP toon but cannot do anything with them until 1.2, even if 1.2 drops and no vehicles, or racial dropsuits come out I have then to spec into something I seriously don't want to with no prospective respect in the future.
relax. Make some mistakes. Well atm I have to specc into Amarr Assault.....cause well I have to crush Minmatar skulls in something! I have to crush amarr skulls with something and I chose to slice n dice them with the nova knives 
If you don't know why you fight then don't fight at all. Most Minmatar FWer don't even know why they fight yet they continue to support them... Never got the Minmatar thing they all look pretty lame to me
Plus if you are slicing and dicing then.....how ya gonna crush this skull. |
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